The number of ratings is what sold his other books. Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. I will say they like Ruger and a few other vendors copied Kel-Tec once again as this thing look like a P11. Since I dont know whether or not your going to use it for EDC, I will recommend one full size and one small one which i think are the 2 best IMO. You find that to be an effective way to make friends and influence people? (I like Glocks, but between the trigger and the slimness of the Kahr, Im a convert) My least favorite aspect of the CM40, aside from the revolver-like capacity, is the stiffness of the slide spring. Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns based on what your stupid opinion? Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Or the Kahr in there? I some what question these results mainly because I own one of the guns on this list. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? I doubt he even read the directions. When you insert a fresh magazine, it will be easier to rack the slide this way as well. You can buy 1911s now. Take down the Pico. They are kind of like the Nancy Pelosis in the outdoor industry. Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. Just like Fords. Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. That gun, the TCP, gets pretty good marks everywhere Ive seen it reviewed, so I wouldnt expect it to show up on a pocket guns to avoid list. When he says the People have spoken who the heck is that? Its not. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. As far as the magazine release, its perfect for my needs. Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. Im in the habit of buying less costly weapons and fully expect to tinker a bit with them to produce a smooth running hot brass pile maker. How is this journalisim? I own a hp380. It shoots a powerful pistol cartridge in a light gun. Texas Teens Getting Carry Licenses! Generally the heavier it is the less recoil. But people usually get .380 to conceal them. If you just care about recoil the Berretta cheeta is a go My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. My SCCY CPX-2 has been absolutely accurate with never a malfunction of any kind. Everything they make are just wrought with problems. An odd shaped frame that in my opinion they actually went too small on trying to outdo everyone to be the king of small in 380s. The .380 ACP is not a powerhouse, but its often enough. The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. 8===D~. How about some info on some of the pocket pistols that may be considered the best? Using that, Ive compiled a spreadsheet of the resultsby filtering down 200+ subcompact handguns, first by caliber (nothing weaker than .380 ACP), and then by size (nothing bigger than 5.77 long x 4.4 tall).That left 44 semi-autos, which I sorted by each guns average user rating. I actually have the cm9 and cw380 both and never an issue with either one. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. I think the SCCY might be marginally better and has 2 mags. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. The gun works incredibly well if you use the recommend FMJ ammo as listed in the manual. I shoot pocket guns all the time. Trigger sucked. You must not even be able to read. And for sure never shot one. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. Beretta has been making guns for over 500 years and nice guns. Must be the best gun ever. I have thousands of rounds through the Picos and trust me, they hold up like the tank they are. My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. Lol, it is more than obvious that John Hope does not have a clue about the Beretta Pico. I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). I have 100s of rounds through both my kahrs with zero fails. the fact you just dont like it? A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ I normally enjoy Truth about guns. Oh, it fits my hand great too. It just goes into endless redirects until your browser gives up on it. As long as you shoot the recommended ammo and keep your weapon cleaned, oiled properly, and replace any defective parts you will get much better performance. I really wanted to like the gun. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. Ive heard too many bad comments and complaints about the I.O. Sure just Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. You want an example of why internet polls are not representative? Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. I used to have one. My shooting buddy has an LCP. They know media though. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. No issue with it. But, it doesnt like to be dirty. How so? Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! You do not get a small light pistol without trade offs. I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. Otherwise you will just get a ton of, Wait, that gun is not a GLOCK! (dead serious) took it right back to the store. Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. The only thing about that bill is that allows those in a govt approved marksmenship program to buy them first. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. Glad I didnt see mine. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. This is the J-Frame for the masses. I dont care for the finger grooves, the chunky feel, or the bullets rattling in the magazine when they arent stacked just right. My advice. Hey Dan, what gun have you designed or invested in? It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. All I know is my 1st CPX-2 had to be sent in for service 30 minutes after I got it home. I also have the Kahr. CPX 2. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. Thats a lot! Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. Here is some news for you. Do they now have 12 round mags? ! Silver tip p+ for carry, or whatever local law enforcement carries. Nonetheless, it still suffers from many of the issues that we just talked about in the previous section: the trigger pull is awful, they are difficult to shoot, it can be difficult to get a good grip on the pistol for some shooters, and the slide wont even lock back on the last round fired. I liked the gun otherwise, but the awful trigger was a total deal breaker for me. I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. I just dont see the silent u in that. How is it possibly at the top of the list? Encountered types on the old KT forums that whines like a little girl. Only time I tried one I did not like it. We indicate sponsored content as such. Fed, fired and ejected all the ammo I put in it. Im thinking about getting a second one to keep in my truck or with my bow hunting gear. Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. You really missed this one. You need to learn more about handguns before posting such nonsense. I have thousands of rounds through both and they keep on trucking One gun has 5000 rounds with just one failure with all kinds of ammo and that was a bad primer strike, which by the way the Pico has double strike capability which took care of that. The price is right, but the performance and ratings just arent. Theres room for disagreement, but probably only because some peoples pockets are bigger and can hold bigger guns. Really disappointed in how this was presented. And than some. They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. But still, Im sure there are worse ones. While the track is double, both trains were traveling in opposite directions on the same line near the Vale of Tempe, a river valley about 380 kilometers (235 miles) north of Athens. Total joke. Trash. (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. The Hellcat II was cheap when purchased new, and you can find one used for around $100. While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. Of all the firearm purchases you may make in your lifetime, a pocket gun is probably the one you can least afford to screw up. The thing is about Cobras, hi points that people that call them junk have never actually researched the gun. I certainly wouldnt be happy. The double 1911 also has ratings. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. Actually, the KelTec P11 is the same size, came first and holds two more rounds. The grip is also slightly enlarged in order to get a better grip, with an improved stippling job as well to better accommodate wet or slippery conditions. Funny. Great little pistol. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. Bought it brand new. But for a handgun of last resort, I prefer an Airweight. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? The trigger is fantastic, and reassuring in handling and holstering (leather IWB) in ways that Glock is not. Anyone have the Bersa .380. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. If its good Ill spread the word. The trigger is exactly like a double action revolver. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? Yes it did. WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. Hi points work if you use FMJ and clean and oil the gun. Three weeks before it was even released. Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. lol Damon really? I would very much like to see your proof/examples. As in best gun LOL. In regards to the Cobra a lot of people dissing the gun are those who fire hollowpoints through it. Because they werent reliable? Which is good compared to many overpriced semi auto pistols which are not as dependable. Seriously, it works if you have a fresh pair of springs in it. I shot the cpx-1 and the cpx-2and never had a problem with either. One of the finest pocket guns out there. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. I have several pocket pistols, Just had my XDS 45 fail on me (Light primer strikes) and have another XDS in 9MM, I have a S&W Sigma 380, that works but is less pleasing than my two Ruger LCPs, Kahr, CW380, or my Colt Mustang XSP. The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. And just recently bought my Third Pico. S&W Bodyguard .380 7. They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. 4) Beretta Pico(4.1 stars 0.3, 134 votes), Color me shockedto see the Pico down here with the bottom feeders because Beretta is a major manufacturer that produces lots of quality firearms. I laughed when I got to the CM40. In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. Thanks for your post. I recommend them to people all the time, but I do caution that, as is to be expected with a DAO, the trigger is long. Keltec P11 will take S&W 669 mags10,15,20 rounders..just like the Marlin Camp Rifle.. Slicked up and did a Golden Loki Fluff & Buff on my Kel-Tec P3AT after I bought it years ago. It came back still not fixed. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. My NAA .380 ACP with Novak 3 dot night sights has been 100% reliable with every ammo tried and as accurate as I am. Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. The CM9 is a great gun. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. Taurus TCP voted best value-best overall 380 was Kahr p380-MUCH more expensive. Broke the ejector. I also Have the Kahr CW380 nice guy but finicky on ammo. I fell for the Pico hype. On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. I sell guns and have ZERO hesitation about selling someone a CPX-2 for everyday carry. The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. None. All guns I would have avoided anyway, except the Pico. All these tacticool wannabes on here think theyre special. The cobra looks very similar to a firearm my mother owns. .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. It was his first time shooting it (or any gun) ever. Could not disagree more with the articles 3rd selection, namely, the SCCY Industries CPX-2 (not to be confused with its predecessor which had issues of which were acknowledged by the company and subsequently corrected). CM40 is my summe4 carry. I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. Modular design, one of the easiest take downs in the history of guns, fantastic sights, easy to put on night sights without going to a Gun Smith. . And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. Note to self, Get to the range! Look at the back of the slide. It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. Because they just have a vendetta against these manufacturers? If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. After the 200 round break in if you have any, then yes you should be pissed. Plus, the Picos 9mm cousin, the Nano, rates well above average. Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. Years ago a mentor and I were at a range with an iron 30 plate/gong at 270 yards. I would have bet the farm that the Ruger LCP was the worst small pistol ever created. 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